12/13/03

    David "Mickey" Maust   Posted By Tillman

A little info before I get into this rant.... For the last few years I've been playing card games on yahoo, and while I'm clicking away as fast as I can I usually have the TV tuned into Fox/Cnn etc....

There I was playing cards and I heard that Mr Maust (I heard them say Mr Mouse, as in Mickey Mouse) had just been arrested for the murder of one minor and they were finding bodies left and right in his basement. I asked my self, "Why Mickey, why" joking, but the more I heard them talk about the details and picturing Mickey Mouse as the killer I couldn't stop laughing. Maybe you "had to be there", but every time I hear/think about his guy all I can do is laugh.

I looked for a while for info on this guy, and wasn't able to come up with anything on the net, which I haven't given up yet. The best (most informative) I found was at Chicago Sun Times but I've seen in the past their quick to remove info, so I copied the story for you guys to check out.

Child killer charged in Gacy-like crime

December 12, 2003
BY SHAMUS TOOMEY AND TOM McNAMEE Staff Reporters
A Hammond man pegged as a Gacy type by authorities more than 20 years ago has confessed to killing one of three teenagers found buried beneath a foot of concrete in his basement, police said Thursday. David E. Maust, 49, who allegedly lured teen boys to his home in the same manner as mass murderer John Wayne Gacy -- offering money, alcohol and jobs -- was charged with killing 16-year-old James Raganyi, strangling him with a rope. Maust is already a convicted teen killer. He was released from prison in 1999 after serving part of a 35-year sentence for stabbing to death a 15-year-old boy in far west suburban Elgin in 1981. Before doing his time in Illinois, Maust also served nearly two years in Texas on a charge of injuring a child.

Maust was not charged Thursday in the murder of the two other teens found buried in the basement -- 13-year-old Michael Dennis and 19-year-old Nicholas James -- but Hammond police said the investigation continues.
In a grisly scene this week reminiscent of when investigators unearthed 27 bodies from a crawl space in Gacy's home in 1978, Hammond police dug for several days in the basement of the house where Maust rented an apartment and retrieved the badly decomposed remains of the three teens. Neighbors said they were stunned, but many said they long had a bad feeling about Maust, who moved into the second-floor apartment about 15 months ago. He liked to hang out with teen boys and tried to cut his lawn with an ordinary pair of scissors.

Paul Goddard, a close friend of Nick James, whom he called "NJ," said he and NJ used to drink and watch TV at Maust's apartment. Maust had built a bar in his apartment, complete with mirrors and lights. Maust had gotten James a job at the store where he worked, Trophies Are Us in Dolton. Goddard, 21, said he didn't know Dennis, but once saw an unusual photo of Dennis at Maust's apartment. The boy had one of Maust's large pet snakes wrapped around his neck, he said. Maust "let us use his truck whenever we wanted," Goddard said. "He gave us money for my gas. After 'NJ' disappeared, he got me his job, but I never went in the first day because I felt strange about it. There was something wrong, like a stomach gut feeling. I didn't want to go." Hammond police say Raganyi and a friend began hanging out with Maust last summer. Maust gave them money and invited them to his apartment, at 4933 Ash St., to drink and smoke pot.

On Sept. 10, both Raganyi and Dennis were reported missing after their parents found runaway notes. Police learned the boys had been seen with Maust and discovered Maust's criminal history. With permission from Maust's landlord, William Hinton, who also employed Maust in the trophy shop, police inspected the basement of the two-story framed gray house and discovered a 12-inch-thick concrete pad, newly poured, in the southwest corner. Hinton said he'd never seen the 8- by 5-foot pad. On Nov. 20, Hammond and Lake County sheriff's police returned to the basement with a dog trained to sniff out cadavers. The dog "found a portion of the basement to be a place of interest," said Hammond Police Chief John Cory. On Dec. 5, Hammond police put Maust under surveillance. And on Tuesday and Wednesday this week, investigators tore up the pad and found the three bodies, wrapped in plastic and tied with cords and tape.

Maust admitted killing Raganyi on the same day the young man was reported missing, according to police. Raganyi drank beer and shots and got sick. Then, around 11:45 p.m., he strangled Raganyi with a rope, Maust confessed. Kathy Hardesty, who lives two houses north of Maust, said she learned firsthand of Maust's interest in teen boys when he approached her 16-year-old son. "It was September," she recalled. "It was warm and he was cutting the grass with his scissors, and he said to my son, 'Hey, dude, you wanna go drink a beer or smoke a joint.' I turned around and said, 'What's your problem approaching my son?' . . . I said -- and excuse my mouth -- 'You're a f------ weirdo. Don't ever talk to my son again.' "

While Raganyi and Dennis had been missing since early September, Nick James had been reported missing back in May. Lake County Coroner David Pastrick said that, based on autopsy results, he believes James was dead at that time.

Gacy home yielded 27 corpses in '78
It is almost 25 years ago to the day that investigators pulled the first body out of the crawl space of John Wayne Gacy's northwest suburban home. By the time they were done, police uncovered 27 bodies in small, makeshift graves. Gacy confessed to killing 30 people -- mostly young men -- and stuffing their bodies under the house. When he ran out of room at his house near Norridge, he began dumping bodies in rivers. The men were usually sexually abused, tortured, then strangled. Gacy was executed in 1994.

Excerpts from David Maust's 1983 murder confession

Here are excerpts from an 87-page statement David E. Maust gave Cook County sheriff's investigators on Dec. 20, 1983, as he was being held for the murder of 15-year-old Donald Jones. The "diary" passages cover 16 years of Maust's life. Punctuation and spelling have been kept intact. When he was 13 in 1967, Maust said he went from a state mental hospital to a children's home at 3737 N. Mozart. "I found out that the kid's I was with did not play any sports, the only thing they wanted to do was to have sex with another boy. "I had sex with Steve maybe three times, and there was two more boys there that I did this with. . . . When I was doing this with them I enjoyed it at the time I was doing it, because all I wanted was to have someone to love me." Soon after arriving at the home, Maust recalls hurting someone for the first time. "In August I hurt a boy by the name of Eddie, we were playing, and for no reason at all I started to choke him, I did not choke him for long I let him go, and he was ok, and I told him I was sorry, and he said it was ok, Eddie was the first person I hurt." In 1970, Maust -- back at the state hospital -- ran away and his mother sent him to live with an uncle in Georgia. "In October of 1970 me and my fourteen year old cousin when hunting one Saturday afternoon, he had a shotgun, and I had a riffle, when we go out into the woods I almost shot my cousin in the back. . . . I raised the rifle up and I had him in my sights and I took aim, and before I pulled the trigger I pulled the rifle away. . . . No budy never said anything to me about it."

Going back and forth between Chicago and Georgia, Maust recalled his mother being abusive. "She got a knife, and was coming at me with the knife, telling me to get out of her house right now or she was going to stab me with the knife, so my stepfather got up and stopped her." Maust later spent a month with his family in Chicago before heading to Army basic training in 1971. "I helped my Mother and stepfather around the house, it made me feel like a son for the first in my life."

'Like war going on in my mind'
He finished his Army career in Germany after several violent outbursts, including a manslaughter conviction. Among the incidents: *"In January when I was going to the Moves [movies] a young boy was walking close to me, and for no reason at all I started choking him. *"[An Army sergeants's] stepson was German he was sixteen year's old. . . . When I was sleeping I had a bad nightmare, and got up and took the knife I had and stabed that boy [in] the back, and after I did that to the boy, the knife I had fell apart and fell from my hand to the floor. "I did not enjoy the thought of hurting someone but at the same time I would think about hurting someone over and over in my mind, it was like war going on in my mind, one part of my mind would say hurt that person and you will feel better David, and the other part of my mind would say David do not hurt that person, because you will not feel better. . . . Be good to other people David." **"I hit Jimmy in the face maybe thirty times. When I started hitting Jimmy, I couldn't stop. I tried and tried, telling myself over and over to let the boy go." Maust then talked about being on trial for the boy's killing. "When Jimmy's mother was on the stand, you could see how sad she was, and how much she missed her son. She loved her son Jimmy so much, and she wanted her son back so she could love him again." Maust talked about doing time at the military prison in Leavenworth, Kan., and how excited he was when he was allowed to take care of some horses outside prison walls. But that happiness turned to sadness when in May of 1977, Maust was told he was going home to his parents in Chicago. "I tried to stay in [prison] but the people in Leavenworth would not let me stay. I cried that morning because I would miss the farm there. It's hard for me to leave a place that I love, but I would go out into the world on that day and try to make it."

'I stabbed Bert again and again'
But Maust didn't like being back in Chicago, and he eventually decided to leave for Georgia. While there, Maust talked about spending time with his friend, Bert, and how he felt compelled to kill him. "I started to cut Bert's shirt off him, and then I took the knife and I stabbed Bert one time, and Bert started moving his hands, and his eyes opened a little, and then I stabbed Bert again and again and again, and I was telling myself quit doing this, Bert's your best friend." In 1979, Maust went on trial on charges he stabbed his friend Mark in the abdomen. He was found not guilty after lying on the witness stand. "The judge said to me, you should not be throwing knifes around other people, and I told the judge, I would not throw any more knifes around." After the trial, he lived with a couple that took him in, and he worked at a machine shop in Elk Grove Village. In his spare time, he would tan himself in the back of his pickup truck in a nearby forest preserve, trying to hide his abdominal scars from self-inflicted knife wounds. "The woods was a special place for me, the woods was a place where I could be by myself and be happy, the woods was a place were I did not hurt anyone. . . . In August of 1980, I loss my job because I went to the woods to many times."

'Please don't let me hurt anyone'
After getting another job and moving in and out of several homes, including the home of a woman who befriended him, he was again fired. Then in July 1981, he took a job with the Milwaukee Road, making $11.74 an hour, the most he had ever made. That's the job that led him to the Elgin area. "I would say to God please don't let me hurt anyone to day, I would say that over, and over to God, please do not let me hurt anyone today." On Aug. 9, 1981, Maust picked up 15-year-old Donald Jones and drove around, saying they were going to score some dope. "I did not know what I was going to do with Donald Jones, and I would not let my self think about it, all I knew is that I have Donald Jones with me that afternoon and I would tell him any lie to get him to go with me." He lured Jones off into the woods near Elgin. "I was trying to think what to do, but my mind was going a hundred miles in hour, so I could not think right, so then i told my self, if your going to do something then do it or lets go. So then I put Donald Jones on the ground I hit him in the back." He made Jones drink eight beers until passing out. He was going to throw Jones into a pond but saw a knife. "I tried to think but I could not, so then I picked up the knife, and I stabbed Donald Jones in the stomach and then I threw the knife on the ground. "I can still hear Donald Jones saying to me, "I am only fifteen years old please do not kill me."

'Forgive me for what I did'
He left Jones to die in about four feet of water. "I tried not to think about Donald Jones that Sunday night, but when the baseball game came on TV that night, I would think about Donald Jones, then I would hold my head down and go to bed. And then I would pray to God, that Donald Jones was in Heaven, and then I would pray to God, that He would help Donald Jones family for the hard times I caused them, and then I would pray to God, to forgive me for what I did to that fifteen year old boy Donald Jones." After almost killing another man, whom he let go, the police come to Maust's hotel room. "And I am all alone now, I have nobody for me any more, I have no Family, and I have no Friends any more, and I am the blame for that because I hurt people, but it is to hard on my mind not to be Loved anymore, and not have anyone for me hurts my heart to much, its a sad thing to be alone. "Going to prison for the rest of my life is not going to help me . . . For the murder of Donald Jones I want the death sentence, for I have that right to have the death sentence. . . . I would like the death sentence because of the bad thing I did to other people for I am sorry and I am ashamed of myself for all the wrong I have caused. "I wish I did not have to tell anybody about this. And I only blame myself. "David Edward Maust" Lucio Guerrero, Stefano Esposito and Shamus Toomey

Suspect convinced some he was 'valuable asset to society'
BY STEFANO ESPOSITO AND DAVE MCKINNEY Staff Reporters

David Edward Maust had a personality disorder that made him dangerous and kept him from making lasting relationships, a psychiatrist concluded in 1993. But Maust managed to convince plenty of others -- including a Cook County Jail chaplain -- that he was a sweet, harmless man. "David is far from being mentally ill," wrote the volunteer chaplain in a Dec. 10, 1992, letter. "He is intelligent, soft-spoken and non combative." That chameleonlike ability may explain Maust's history of befriending and then brutally beating teenage boys. Over and over in statements to police, Maust talks about being torn between wanting to hurt kids and feeling guilty about it. "It was like war going on in my mind," he once told investigators. "One part of my mind would say, 'Hurt that person and you will feel better, David,' and the other part of my mind would say, 'David do not hurt that person. . . . Be good to other people David.'" Maust said he was abused as a child and, in 1981, by the time he was 27, his taste for violence had turned lethal. It was around 11 p.m. on Aug. 9 when Maust said he picked up 15-year-old Donald Jones and drove to a quarry near Elgin, where Maust repeatedly stabbed Jones in the stomach and upper back. Maust then tossed Jones into some standing water in the quarry. By the time sheriff's deputies had linked Maust to the killing, Maust was in a Texas jail serving a five-year sentence for an attack on a boy in that state. Maust waived extradition from Texas at the end of 1983 to face the murder charges in Cook County. In a box on extradition papers appear the hand-written words: "Bad Guy. Gacey Type," an apparent reference to serial killer John Wayne Gacy. But the Illinois case stretched on for years while Maust was in and out of mental institutions in Cook and Kane counties, repeatedly judged incompetent to stand trial. One of those institutions was the Elgin Mental Health Center.

While at Elgin, allegations surfaced that Maust developed an inappropriate "relationship" with a female counselor, according to a source familiar with the case. Citing privacy concerns, a spokesman for the state Department of Human Services declined comment. At some point during his stay, Maust temporarily escaped from the Elgin hospital, a law enforcement source said. In a 1993 report to Cook County Judge Vincent Gaughan, Albert H. Stipes, a psychiatrist at the Psychiatrist Institute in Chicago, wrote that Maust had a "personality disorder characterized by impulsive behavior and a lack of ability to form lasting relationships." In the same letter, Stipes wrote: "There is reasonable probability that he will act in an impulsive and perhaps harmful way to himself or others in the future." But Maust also had an extraordinary ability to convince others of his sanity and compassion. "Mr. Maust is one of the most considerate, caring people I have ever known," wrote a Cook County correctional officer in a 1992 letter in Maust's court file. "Mr. Maust, if he were freed, would be a valuable asset to society," the corrections officer wrote. Eventually, Maust was found fit for trial. But in 1994, Maust and his attorneys reached an agreement with prosecutors in which Maust pleaded guilty to killing Jones in exchange for a 35-year sentence -- five years short of the statutory maximum at that time. "Not a night or day goes by when I don't think of my life as a nightmare," Jones' mother, Edna Jones, said in a written statement prepared for Maust's sentencing. "We would like to see the death penalty so this man could never kill again." Not only did Maust escape the death penalty, he only served half his sentence. He was given credit for the time he served while awaiting trial and then got 50 percent off for good behavior. "That's not a decision we make," Sergio Molina, a Corrections Department spokesman said Thursday. "That was done by law." Maust was released from prison in June 1999.

At some point, Maust ended up in an Oak Park apartment, where he lived for about 1-1/2 years before leaving for Hammond, Ind. A neighbor, who did not want his name used, remembered Maust living on a ground-floor apartment with lots of mirrors inside. Maust was a big guy who liked to lift weights and listen to his stereo, the neighbor recalled. "His demeanor kind of told you to stay away," the neighbor said. "He never really wanted to confide anything to you." Contributing: Dan Rozek, Abdon Pallasch

The insanity defense to me is so over played these days, and I'm one of those freaks that think, when you do it, get caught, use it as a way to explain it all away. I love it when someone comes out celbrating the fact they killed people.... But after reading this, and watching/hearing a few news reports, Mickey Maust may really have a easy time walking away from all this with a insanity defense. Not to say he won't rot and die in a insitution somewhere, but I've been to both, and anyone that has will tell you, hook me up with the nuthouse. Is he really crazy? Fuck yes he is.... To me, at this point in American society we're all crazy. Is he more crazy them many people? Yes. Given the fact that most serial killers don't start killing until they have a comfornt zone, this guy buried the bodies in a public place in a apartment he was renting while all the time he'd been convicted of killing in the past. It doesn't take a DR to see the signs in this case. But hey, this is just my opinion.

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